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Postby The Sawyer » Fri May 22, 2009 7:41 pm

Apologies Stephen if for any offence caused, but As a friend of Julian Evans it did seam as if his religion and his work where being taken as one and the same thing, which in the most part they are not.

As a forestry student one of out set text books was written by Prof. Julian Evans at the time one of these mythical beings that worked at Alice Holt research station. but when I met him at a Hampshire Coppice group event and spoke to him I found him to be a very friendly and informative person. over the years that I have known him he has even had the humility to admit he should have read his own hallowed text on woodland management.


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Postby tracy » Fri May 22, 2009 8:07 pm

Please remember to read one another posts carefully, no one has criticised Julian, we all agree, he is a good bloke -

I have just read his 'Silviculture of broadleaved woodlands' book - its dead good!


Lets move on... tree thinning?


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Postby Stephen1 » Fri May 22, 2009 9:43 pm

Might I offer the suggestion to anyone feeling uncomfortable with the way I ill-advisedly took this "discussion" to read the bottom of p186 of Prof. Julian Evans' very readable book "What happened to our wood".


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Postby Stephen1 » Fri May 22, 2009 9:52 pm

As an example of a different approach to thinning I would suggest looking at the decission of what to do with so-called "Wolf Trees". Wolf Trees are individuals that are particularly fast growing, that have very large and widespreading canopies and very thick branches. Their vigour supresses the growth of nearby trees. (Their thick coarse branches means they are of very low value as timber trees - produce wood with large knots)


From a timber production perspective they reduce the potential maximum yield of timber from a given area - by shading many trees around them. From a different perspective in a recently planted area, or area of natural regeneration following clear felling - these individuals relativley rapidly produce large diameter trees so valuable to certain specialist woodland invertebrates that may have persisted in a state of decline in the abscence of large trees in that area - and are effectively on borrowed time until more suitable habitat is restored that enables them to flourish again.


A professional forester would probably suggest removing such a tree when thinning but from a biodiversity point of view it might be beneficial to favour such a tree - giving it even more light to grow even more quickly.


I'm not suggesting any wrong answers just that there isn't only one way to select trees for thinning - it always depends on what your aim is and why you are motivated to thin


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Postby tracy » Sat May 23, 2009 5:56 am

Hi Stephen, I am interested in the topic 'how does your world view/ faith influence your woodland management'!! Perhaps you and I could have that thread all to ourselves - I suspect Julian would join in ;-)

You are so right, that this particular video was focussing on timber production. I was thinking about the 'removing diseased trees' thing. I think there must be a place for that when the tree is

a) dangerous

b) disease is spreadable - like tree version of swine flu

c) stopping an even better tree from getting the best chance. The better part being either timber or for wildlife.


Standing dead wood and a variety of tree ages are important though where possible.

I wonder if managing for timber and managing focussed on creatures are not necessarily entirely exclusive?

I am sure no one has said that - but I know foresters recognise the value of diversity in a woodland...


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